AMD Bulldozer / Bobcat / Zambezi - Plataformas.

[Athlon_man]

Mas é aquela história, se for pra ter um salto tecnológico, está mais que certo mudar o soquete, a Intel fazia sem motivo algum, qual o problema agora? (sei que não é o que você pensa, só estou expondo o argumento)

off.. sirroman, você podia comprar aqui que tem as grandes redes que são auto-suficientes na exploração sem dó nem piedade do bolso alheio. Claro que vir pessoalmente é complicado, mas nos e-commerce sai em conta e com frete mais baixo que trazer "do sul".

[Evandro]

Pessoal, discutam sobre as lojas por MP, por favor.

[jonny_br]

Creio que teremo alterações nas seguinte proprção:

FM1 "DDR3+" que virará FM2 "DDR4" mantendo a controladora AM3 então compatibilidade.

AM3+ "DDR3+" que virará AM4 "DDR4" mantendo a controladora AM3 então compatibilidade. Mas tenho ligeiras impressões que esse soquet será para o BDZII Top-End, Mainstream/Low-End certamente Soquet FM2.

[Evandro]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4109/amd-and-globalfoundries-ces-2011

GF fala em expansão, AMD fala em reoadmaps e processadores novos.

Se eles usaram uma imagem real e não uma figurada, a AMD usará um socket LGA meigrandin em breve.

[jonny_br]

essa vai pro johannesrs

Video demonstra a primeira MSI para a plataforma AM3+:

YouTube - MSI AMD 990FX motherboard just sitting around at Vegas look-out!

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/18386/msi_amd_990fx_motherboard_just_sitting_around_at_vegas_look_out_video/index.html

Foto para quem não tem paciência em ver video

Foto de AM3+

[telminão]

Caraca muito linda essa placa

[Pistigrilo]

Muito top. Esse socket AM3+ (ou AM3b, como está escrito no socket dessa placa) me pareceu muito parecido com o AM3 atual. Será que a AMD não fez nada para impedir de se colocar os novos processadores AM3+ (ou AM3b) em antigas placas AM3? Ele tem realmente mais pinos (É claro que não vou para para contar ¬¬)?

[Roberto91]

Muito top. Esse socket AM3+ (ou AM3b, como está escrito no socket dessa placa) me pareceu muito parecido com o AM3 atual. Será que a AMD não fez nada para impedir de se colocar os novos processadores AM3+ (ou AM3b) em antigas placas AM3? Ele tem realmente mais pinos (É claro que não vou para para contar ¬¬)?

Se não me engano tem de 1~3 pinos a mais. Logo é incompatível, realmente essas placas vão ser compatíveis com os AM3 atuais e não o contrário. Mas, pelo que eu pude ver a AMD vai ter suar a camisa para q os BDZ sejam realmente rápidos, porque os testes do Sandy Bridge não são nada animadores para ela. Estou tentado pro meio do ano ir para o lado azul da força, mas claro se os Bulldozers compensarem pelo preço/performance a história é outra...

[jonny_br]

Pelo que pude observar:

[Roberto91]

Pelo que pude observar:

Ociosidade num dia de domingo é grande, depois da praia então... Caraca jonny_br reparou bem... Bc ou algum outro usuário aqui do fórum sabe me dizer se o encaixe do cooler dessas novas placa AM3+ da AMD ou 1155 da Intel vão ser iguais as "antigas" AM3 ou 1156? porque meu PII 955 tá um pouco quente e barulhento. (46°C e 4327RPM, porque tá em 800MHz com o Cool'n'Quiet e 52°C e 6490RPM quando eu to jogando). Então queria comprar um cooler pra não ficar surdo ou torrar o CPU com esse calor aqui do RJ, mas não queria perder ele daqui a uns 6 meses quando eu trocar de plataforma (BDZ ou SB)... Alguém sabe? valeu.

[marcelogon]

Ociosidade num dia de domingo é grande, depois da praia então... Caraca jonny_br reparou bem... Bc ou algum outro usuário aqui do fórum sabe me dizer se o encaixe do cooler dessas novas placa AM3+ da AMD ou 1155 da Intel vão ser iguais as "antigas" AM3 ou 1156? porque meu PII 955 tá um pouco quente e barulhento. (46°C e 4327RPM, porque tá em 800MHz com o Cool'n'Quiet e 52°C e 6490RPM quando eu to jogando). Então queria comprar um cooler pra não ficar surdo ou torrar o CPU com esse calor aqui do RJ, mas não queria perder ele daqui a uns 6 meses quando eu trocar de plataforma (BDZ ou SB)... Alguém sabe? valeu.

Olhando a foto da placa msi am3+ que foi postada num dos post anteriores,da amd parece que é o mesmo encaixe,agora da intel não sei dizer.

[jonny_br]

Os encaixes "suportes" continuam os mesmos, fiquem tranqüilos...

[Roberto91]

Os encaixes "suportes" continuam os mesmos, fiquem tranqüilos...

Até o da Intel? Se for isso vai ser ótimo, já vou poder comprar um novo cooler q o barulho/eficiência desse box da AMD está horrível... Obrigado jonny_br e marcelogon.

[Evandro]

http://www.techpowerup.com/138090/Bulldozer-Ready-AMD-990FX-Based-MSI-Big-Bang-Conqueror-Motherboard-Pictured.html

Fotos da placa-mãe MSI socket AM3b.

As pontes sul e norte parecem dissipar menos calor que as anterioes, e esse VRM é ignorante demais.

[johannesrs]

olha, mesmo vrm das outras versões... não tem nada de muito ignorante...

na verdade, não gostei, tá muito coladas as pci-e.

[telminão]

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/21501-amd-wants-brazos-desktops-under-$99

AMD quer Desktops Brazos a preços na casa dos 99 doletas. Ai vem minha dúvida, esse preço é para o sistema processador + Placa-mãe, ou o Sistema completo, exceto monitor claro ^^

[Guilherme FW Xavier]

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/21501-amd-wants-brazos-desktops-under-$99

AMD quer Desktops Brazos a preços na casa dos 99 doletas. Ai vem minha dúvida, esse preço é para o sistema processador + Placa-mãe, ou o Sistema completo, exceto monitor claro ^^

Esse é o preço da CPU + placa mãe.

[Gun'ss]

Dirk Meyer sai da AMD

http://fudzilla.com/processors/item/21502-dirk-meyer-leaves-amd

http://blogs.amd.com/press/2011/01/10/amd-appoints-thomas-seifert-as-interim-ceo-dirk-meyer-resigns-in-mutual-agreement-with-board-of-directors/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+amd/all+(All+of+AMD)

A empresa quer dar passos mais largos.

[Evandro]

Uatarrel ?!?!

Poxa, como eles mesmos disseram, o cara pegou a empresa numa época difícil e coordenou as principais mudanças positivas dos últimos tempos que ocorreram ali, fora que ele era engenheiro de lá desde o projeto do Athlon, agora que ele colheria frutos bons do trabalho durante a estiagem mandam o cara embora.. não entendi.

[Diego Paladin]

E vão precisar de um Houdini para CEO se a ideia é tirar mais leite de pedra do que já tiraram com o Dirk Meyer. Torcendo pela AMD, se com eles já é difícil aguentar o monopólio da Intel, sem eles então...

Acionistas nervosos é um péssimo sinal sobre o BDZ, btw.

[sirroman]

Holy crap. Absolutamente do nada isso. As ações vão cair pra bagaia amanhã.

As razões podem ter sido: boquinha nervosa de acionista; "Fracasso" das HD69xx; e "surpresa e roubada de holofotes" por parte da Intel. Acionistas não gostaram de como andaram as coisas.

E o phod* é que o cara engrena a AMD para uma transição tranquila e controlada com as suas duas maiores apostas, fusion e BDZ! Isso enquanto tinha uma faca nas costas chamada TSMC.

Outras visão:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20028061-92.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20

His departure comes as a bit of a surprise to the chip industry, judging by comments on Twitter from people like Microsoft's Rahul Sood, who worked closely with AMD for years developing gaming PCs for his Voodoo PC and later Hewlett-Packard, which acquired Sood's company. "woah...Dirk Meyer resigned from @amd. that was completely and totally unexpected...," he wrote.

AMD also announced preliminary revenue results for its fourth quarter, ahead of next week's expected announcement of its full financial results. Revenue will be $1.65 billion, slightly ahead of what analysts were expecting for the quarter.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/11/technology/11chip.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

In a statement, Bruce Claflin, the A.M.D. chairman, did not address the timing of the surprise move or its reason, beyond generalities. He thanked Mr. Meyer, an engineer and former chip designer who became chief executive in July 2008, for guiding A.M.D. through a revamping of its product lines, a spinoff of its manufacturing plants and settling its long-running antitrust suit against its far-larger rival, Intel.

But with those tasks accomplished, Mr. Claflin said, A.M.D. now needed to improve its market position, growth and financial returns. “We believe a change in leadership,” Mr. Claflin said, “will accelerate the company’s ability to accomplish these objectives.”

Still, analysts were puzzled by the move and its timing.

“The snake isn’t moving fast enough, so you cut off its head?” said Stacy Rasgon, an analyst at Bernstein Research. “The timing is extremely odd, and it’s only going to fuel uncertainty in the stock.”

A.M.D. shares dropped more than 4 percent in after-hours trading, down 37 cents to $8.82 a share. In the regular session, shares had risen 36 cents to $9.19 a share.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20110110144317_BREAKING_AMD_s_Chief_Exec_Resigns_From_the_Company.html

Dirk Meyer resigns from the company after about fifteen years at AMD. Under the leadership of Dirk Meyer AMD developed its first high-end microprocessor – the AMD Athlon – in the late nineties. He became the chief exec of AMD in mid-2008, when Hector Ruiz stepped down after making a series of decision that lead to AMD’s loss of leadership on the server market and resignation of many key people from the former ATI Technologies and also losses on the graphics chips market.

Even though Mr. Meyer succeeded in stabilizing AMD financially, managed to get its roadmap back on track and launched a number of leading-edge products, he still could not make the company profitable. While the exact reasons for the step down are unclear, perhaps, the board of directors wants the new chief exec to make more radical decision than Mr. Meyer did. Still, it is unclear how much more radical it is possible to be: Meyer laid off thousands of people and was one of the driving force behind spinning-off the manufacturing facilities.

A CEO search committee has been formed to begin the search for a new CEO. The committee is led by Bruce Claflin, chairman of AMD’s board of directors, who has been named executive chairman of the board as he assumes additional oversight responsibilities during the transition period. Thomas Seifert will maintain his current responsibilities as CFO and has asked not to be considered for the permanent CEO position. Mr. Seifert joined AMD in 2009. Immediately prior to joining AMD, Seifert served as COO and CFO of Qimonda AG, where he led the formation and subsequent IPO of the company. At Infineon AG, Seifert served as senior vice president and general manager in its wireless business group.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/CEO-of-AMD-resigns-as-company-apf-1087932841.html?x=0&.v=8

AMD is a heavyweight in the computer industry as the world's No. 2 maker of microprocessors. Meyer's sudden resignation caught many in the industry off guard. Under his 2 1/2-year tenure, AMD came back from the brink of collapse by spinning off its expensive chip factories and its stock price went from less than $2 to more than $9 a share.

But AMD's board was blunt in its reason for showing Meyer the door.

In a statement, the board's chairman, Bruce Claflin, acknowledged that Meyer took the helm at a difficult time and "successfully stabilized" the company. The board, however, felt Meyer wasn't the right person to lead the company through its next phase of growth.

(...)

Patrick Wang, a semiconductor analyst with Wedbush Securities, described the resignation as "shocking," especially following AMD's launch of a powerful new line of chips called Fusion at last week's International Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.

"I totally did not see this coming," Wang said. "We just saw him at CES give a great presentation, really fired up about the direction of the company and the progress they've made, only to see some silly little arguments cause him to exit the company."

The company might consider another technical executive such as Rick Bergman, who leads AMD's products group, as a possible replacement as CEO, Wang said.

(...)

Meyer, 49, was only the third person to lead AMD since the company's founding in 1969. The previous CEO, Hector Ruiz, left in 2008 after six years on the job. AMD's founder, Jerry Sanders, whose flashy lifestyle added a splash of glamour to Silicon Valley before it was fashionable, was the only other CEO before that.

Meyer inherited AMD at a time of deep distress for the chip maker. It was saddled with debt, had lost billions of dollars, was losing ground to bigger rival Intel Corp, and had seen its stock plunge from above $40 per share in 2006 to below $2 a share at the end of 2008.

(...)

And while the company has made strides, Meyer apparently couldn't escape the board's sentiment that there's still more room to grow. Areas for potential growth include server and laptop chips, where AMD is particularly weak against Intel, and in charting a new course for chips for smart phones and tablet computers, two of the industry's hottest areas.

When it comes to laptops, in particular, AMD's processors have been criticized for having relatively short battery life. Over the past year, however, the company has made some technical improvements that have led to its processors being built into a wider variety of laptops.

AMD shares fell 40 cents, or 4.3 percent, to $8.79 during after-hours trading. In regular trading before the announcement, the stock had closed at $9.19, up 36 cents, or 4.1 percent.

Meyer's technical capabilities were one of his key selling points in taking the CEO job.

He ran AMD's core microprocessor business and was involved in the design of AMD's Opteron server chip, which allowed the company in 2003 to enter a lucrative segment of the server market dominated by Intel. The success of that chip helped transform AMD into a serious competitor to Intel across all computing platforms.

The AMD he took over was struggling with debt from its $5.6 billion acquisition of graphics card maker ATI Technologies. That deal was meant to improve the graphics ability of AMD's chips -- indeed, the ATI technologies are critical parts of AMD's new Fusion chips -- but in the interim AMD was forced to sell its factories and tap the market for urgent cash infusions. Part of the factory sale involved AMD selling an 8.1 percent stake in AMD to the Abu Dhabi government's investment arm.

Falar na fraqueza dos laptops da AMD logo no lançamento do fusion foi pesado. Deve ter doido Meyer ver isso.

Embora eu entenda o que os acionistas fizeram. Não tem momento melhor para anunciar isso. Se eles já iam tirar Meyer, quando do lançamento do Fusion e da Intel pagar 1.5b pra nVIDIA, não tem hora melhor não. Vai ser meio indolor, agora depende também de acharem o novo CEO. =/

EDIT: olha o tamanho do friggin Cautionary Statement...

This release contains forward-looking statements, concerning among other things, the Company’s growth opportunities, the Company’s opportunity to create increased shareholder value over time, including its ability to have significant growth, establish market leadership and generate superior financial returns, product roadmaps, including the timing of the planned introduction of AMD Fusion platforms, financial results for the fourth fiscal quarter of 2010, including revenue and gross margin, and financial guidance for fiscal 2011 which are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements are commonly identified by words such as “would,” “may,” “expects,” “believes,” “plans,” “intends,” “projects,” and other terms with similar meaning. Investors are cautioned that the forward-looking statements in this release are based on current beliefs, assumptions and expectations, speak only as of the date of these presentations and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from current expectations.

The material factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from current expectations include, without limitation, the following: the possibility that Intel Corporation’s pricing, marketing and rebating programs, product bundling, standard setting, new product introductions or other activities targeting AMD’s business will prevent attainment of AMD’s current plans; AMD will be unable to develop, launch and ramp new products and technologies in the volumes and mix required by the market; AMD’s third party wafer foundries will be unable to manufacture its products on a timely basis with acceptable quality, at acceptable manufacturing yields and using competitive technologies; AMD’s third party wafer foundries will be unable to transition to advanced manufacturing process technologies in a timely and effective way, consistent with AMD’s planned expenditures; AMD will be unable to maintain the level of investment in research and development that is required to remain competitive; demand for computers and consumer electronics products and, in turn, demand for AMD’s products will be lower than currently expected; customers will stop buying AMD’s products or materially reduce their demand for its products; third parties will not develop or improve software that is optimized for AMD products; AMD will require additional funding and may not be able to raise funds on favorable terms or at all; there will be unexpected variations in market growth and demand for AMD’s products and technologies in light of the product mix that it may have available at any particular time or a decline in demand; any inability to obtain sufficient manufacturing capacity or components to meet demand for AMD’s products or the under-utilization of GLOBALFOUNDRIES manufacturing facilities; the effect of political or economic instability internationally on sales or production; or that GLOBALFOUNDRIES will be less successful than anticipated. Investors are urged to review in detail the risks and uncertainties in the company’s Securities and Exchange Commission filings, including but not limited to the Quarterly Report on Form 10-Q for the quarter ended September 25, 2010.

[Gun'ss]

Aparentemente um tiro no pé.

O cara tinha o respeito dos engenheiros.

[EduardoS]

Pessoal... Se fosse pressão de acionista as ações estariam subindo... Os acionistas não gostaram.

[telminão]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703779704576074290806361636.html

foi pressão das empresas fabricantes de Placa mãe, já que a Intel força a troca de mobo a cada novo Processador, já a AMD, vinha tirando leite de pedra, e por sua vez tirando os lucros dos caras

[Evandro]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703779704576074290806361636.html

foi pressão das empresas fabricantes de Placa mãe, já que a Intel força a troca de mobo a cada novo Processador, já a AMD, vinha tirando leite de pedra, e por sua vez tirando os lucros dos caras

Nesse link não diz isso e sim que a diretoria pressionou pois eles acham que a empresa não está indo tão bem em alguns segmentos (como servidores e tablets) quanto ela deveria ir.

Eles esqueceram que a Intel existe e que a AMD estava num buraco financeiro lascado, né ?!

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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20110110212350_No_Financial_Scandal_Involved_in_AMD_CEO_s_Resignation_Sources.html

Não teve escândalo financeiro como costuma ocorrer nestes casos, mas parece que a diretoria ficou P porque a AMD perdeu o bonde no mercado de netbooks, que o Ontario não serve pra tablets e que a AMD não tem como concorrer com os ARM em tablets e em smartphones.

Então era pra matarem o carro chefe pra apostar em segmentos de mercado que eram incertos, isso no meio de dívidas enormes ?!

Parecem os zécutivos dos bancos que causaram "a crise"..